04-22-21- Traci’s Coaching Call- Relationships with co-hosts, difficult conversations and member support
This week on the coaching call, we celebrated member wins, discussed relationships with co-hosts, difficult conversations,
Traci dropped her Calendly link to further discuss issues that the members are finding within their podcast production. Here’s her link. Office hours are next Wednesday April 28th. https://calendly.com/tracideforge/podhive
Also, Thursday May 13th, Dr. Charlotte Huntley is speaking at a graduation ceremony and Traci put the info in the chat so we can all support Charlotte on the call before she speaks on Friday.
00:00:00] Good morning. Hey, I like that picture. Thank you. I’m having breakfast and working on some things in the background. So forgive me for not being on camera. That’s okay. I mean, you know, based on what you do for a living, I could listen to your voice all day without any image, even though the image is a good,
I’m going to let you manage the admissions from now, from going forward. If that’s our plan, I’m ready. Do I need to make this or [00:01:00] anything?
nice grip showing up today. Lots of fun stuff to talk about unless you’ve been under a podcasting rock and if you have that’s okay too, we’ll still talk about it. We’ll get you out from under the rock. Uh, we’ll give everybody just one more minute. And then the meantime. Uh, we’re going to use an exercise I’ve done on this call before, but I haven’t done it in a couple of weeks [00:02:00] and we’re going to.
Do that again, to get everybody kind of grounded. I don’t know if anybody’s feeling the way I do, but I just feel like there’s so much amazing stuff going on that I just don’t even know what to do with all of it. So I thought we might start with a grounding exercise of just kind of checking in with everyone.
We have. A small enough group to start this. And as people jump in, they can do that as well. Um, so we, uh, we use this on a couple of other team calls that I’m involved with Amy, super familiar with it. We’ve done this on this call before, but basically it’s just like taking a deep breath, like. Putting us where we are in our space right now, and shaking off all the cobwebs and all the to-do list items and everything that are in our head.
And just checking in other, with one word that just represents where we are this moment. And, uh, it doesn’t have to be positive and it it’s okay if it’s negative. I mean, there’s not really a negative [00:03:00] feeling, but just a feeling that doesn’t feel so positive. It just can be exactly where you are in this moment.
Right now. So who would like to share their word first?
Okay, Sandy. Welcome back to you by the way. Great. Thank you. Thank you for missing me as well. Of course. My word is reinvigorated. Oh, I love that. You want to share a little bit about why you’re reinvigorated? Sure. Um, that was cause I, cause I couldn’t call this a win necessarily. Um, but I am reinvigorated because, uh, the podcasts that I am currently faded on, um, has become relevant again.
It’s called Downton blabby and it’s a fan podcast for Downton Abbey. Yeah.
In December. So I have three interviews. The, you know, that I’ve been sitting on for a year, um, and one that I’ve been sitting on for six months, um, and some, [00:04:00] some good momentum now to actually kick myself in the pants and use this meetup as my tangible accountability, because the other thing that has happened that has really been reinvigorated my afternoon work schedule is now.
Settled. So I know where I’m going to be 12 to seven Monday through Friday, which means my mornings are open to actually create the system to get this done where I think my life was in flux so much, which is an excuse. I get it. But you know, it was hard to get a hold to make that pattern and make that commitment and get that system flowing.
So reinvigorated. Re-invigorated and I do think there were a couple of wins in their chair. Definitely. And even though the w one of the ones was a big fat gift dropped into your lap with that, I just couldn’t believe when I saw that yesterday that they’re bringing back another Downton Abbey movie. I’m like what the same cast.
That was just amazing. So excited. Okay. So who else would like to share their word? And if a [00:05:00] wind goes along with it, Hey, that’s great too. I’m happy to share my work morning. Um, my word is kind of, I think I’m, I’m, pre-use Sandy. I think I’m I’m flux. Uh, everything’s like been totally thrown up in the air, like probably going to have to find a new job before the business thing is, you know, a little bit, so it’s kind of like that.
So that’s kinda my word. So I guess it’s kind of a window because I feel okay about it. I’m not like completely freaking out about it. But, um, anyways, so we’ll see, maybe that’s shock a lot of drugs. Well, just be really great opportunities ahead. Let’s look at it like that. Exactly. That’s kind of what I’m looking like.
It’s so with that in mind, I might have to cut in and out. So I apologize for that. I’ll try to be as the least disruptive as possible. Anyway, you no worries, but thanks for letting us know and for your check in word and K anybody else. Okay. I should update my name. Um, so the name changed? No, but just to [00:06:00] be, and then the podcast, rather than like, you know, whatever, did you get married?
And we didn’t know. Yeah, totally big news. Not only since last week that I find someone to go on a date with married,
people are like, where did I just show up? Okay. Um, I feel like I am like bubbling over. Like, I don’t even know how, like it’s been, I’ve been so busy, but it’s all just really good stuff. Like I had a new group of clients start last night and, um, I was in a networking meeting this morning and somebody else was like, Oh, I need help with like my health stuff.
It’s like, people are just showing up from all over and interesting too. So last Friday for the first time in over a year and a half of podcasting, I had an interview guests. Hmm. [00:07:00] And now granted, we booked this in January. I operate as a business owner. So I don’t personally feel the need to send a million reminders.
Like we put something in a calendar it’s in a calendar it’s happening. I did send a reminder that morning of like, Hey, looking forward to seeing you, if you need the link again, here it is. You know, whatever, because my gut was saying, she’s not showing up for some reason. Right. It must’ve been like, I don’t typically send a reminder.
Anyway, I sent her a reminder that morning. Didn’t hear back. I’m sitting on the web, you know, recording session, by the way. Do you want me to save this? I know we were doing words. Um, just go with the fun. I just realized I’m like, wait, I should stop talking. But it’s pleasant when you’re doing it a new way this week.
Jen works. Okay,
[00:08:00] perfect. So I, um, I emailed her, so I realized I don’t ever phone number. So I sent her a message on Instagram. That was like, Hey, we’re supposed to be on, on. Know, recording right now, hop on as soon as you can, you know, or if you need to reschedule, let me know, like whatever, nothing send her an email also that was like, Hey, sent you a message on Instagram and then sent a message to the agency, the person at the agency who had connected us.
Cause I’m also like you didn’t just contact me out of nowhere. Like you were sent to me from someone, you know, I have heard from neither the guests nor the agency since last Friday. Well, they won’t be rebooking. Like, and at first my email to the person at the agency was like, I’d like to rebook as soon as possible so that I don’t have to reorganize the content flow of my show.
Right. You know? So then I was like, why am I reading, booking her? Like she knows, [00:09:00] showed, and like, she going to do this. If somebody, if a listener reaches out to her, now I’m putting my name on hers. And I was like, okay, no, nevermind. And like, who’s doing who a favor here. You know, like, I don’t really need her, but because we had had this conversation and then I booked it, whatever.
So I reached out to one of my trainers and his wife who I’ve wanted to have on the show for a long time. But then now I’m like booked through November and I was like, what am I going to get them on? So I’m doing the same topic, but with them. So I don’t have to redo all my prep work and we’re going to record next week, but it was like such a win.
To like, get these other people on and realize that, like, I don’t know this person, anything on top of the fact that she no showed. You know, good boundary setting solution. Good, good strategy. Awesome. So your word, um, word before your wind was bubbling over. I love it. And [00:10:00] congratulations on your new clients.
That’s great. Okay. For those of you who just joined we’re. Yeah. Um, having the exercise that we’ve done a couple of times has been a few weeks where we share our one word to kind of ground us and get us into the present of where we are. We just a word that just kind of sums up where we are, if it’s tad into your wind, that’s great.
If it’s tied into whatever. So it’s, it’s a word when whatever comment just to get us started, uh, I literally I’ve taken alliteration and applied it to the exercise. So who else would like to share their wind, their word or whatever? I’ll go. Okay, great. Cheryl. Hi, good morning everyone. Um, my word is grateful and it comes out of you.
Yvonne led a really a wonderful and much needed meditation. Um, And invited me into her group. And I, I was about to start [00:11:00] editing a podcast and it was really stressed and said, you know what? I need to take the 10th breath. And I do devotions every morning. I do my journaling, but sometimes there’s weeks where that doesn’t help center you.
And so doing Yvonne’s meditation really helps center me and get to a place where I just got back to where one step in front of the other. That’s all I can do. You know, yes, there’s exciting things happening. And so I’m grateful for those things. And I’m also grateful for the ability to just let go and not worry about everything, because guess what?
I can’t change everything. I can only do what I can do. And I guess I’ll share the win is I was able to get the launch of the VIP voices in podcasting clubhouse. Launch, uh, on May 5th, everyone is invited because it happens at 11 o’clock on [00:12:00] Thursdays. And we do that on May 5th. I was so grateful these two women would switch their schedules because these are two pretty strong powerhouses in voiceover.
And the fact that they went okay, we’ll readjust. I was like, okay, thank you. So, um, my word is grateful. My win is that we’re, you know, launching our. Podcast club on May 5th and everyone is welcome if they like to be part of it. Cause it is about podcasting voices in podcasting and other things. So, and that’s 11 o’clock Pacific time.
Just so there’s no confusion. If you’re honest, they happen to be at 11. O’clock where you are right now. Then this is 11 o’clock Pacific time. So talk Pacific time and it’ll be on. I hope I got the date, right? Yeah. Uh, the, the 5th of May. Fantastic. Well, that’s, that’s so exciting and I’m sure you’re going to have a lot of people from our group join you.
And I have to say from a branding [00:13:00] perspective, because you guys have gotten to know me well enough to know that I’m just obsessed with branding. I’m kind of obsessed with alliteration as you just experienced, but, um, VIP voices and podcasting. Um, yeah, that is some really good, uh, real estate domain for branding.
So if you haven’t gotten that. Web domain. I would get that like, well, did I tell you my story behind the web domain? Did I mention that last time? Um, Jen, Jen is nodding her head. I don’t recall it, but once you say it again, I probably will quick. I realized that I should go, uh, secure that. That name and I, I did my search.
I was really upset that it was gone. And then I went into my account and I realized I had bought it. Yes. I do remember that now that you were upset thinking someone else entered it and you end it. Yeah, because I remember ending up in the context of how many of podcasting domains. So. Okay, great. Thank you for sharing.
Gratitude is always, [00:14:00] uh, just a magnificent word for any moment of any day. Um, who else would like to share a word, a win or whatever?
Yeah. Oh, you’re muted. I can do it. Um, hello everybody. Um, so my name is Leah Wolfe and my word, I would say precipice. I feel like this podcast has been a, like slow haul up a very big Hill, and now we’re kind of like, okay, we are going to do this. Um, so we’re just starting to schedule. I think we went back and forth for a really long time about if this is a win, um, or going into a, when we went back and forth for a long time about whether we wanted the episodes to be kind of concept driven or.
Person driven. So would the episode be about an interview with a person or would [00:15:00] the episode be about a concept and we might have multiple people and ultimately some of the topics that we’re covering, I wasn’t comfortable saying we’re only going to interview one person because the concepts are just.
Too broad for that. Um, and so concept driven ended up being much more complicated cause it means two or three people per episode needing to schedule. Um, but we just last week sent out our first like two episodes of like, Hey, we would love to have you on the podcast. And the, when the, the kind of my feelings on it are two part one.
We’ve got two people who came back. One of whom was like, uh, I think we meet might need to ask him several times. And he was the first one to get back and say, yes, like, nevermind your schedule. Or if you really want to work with me, here’s my scheduler, but I’m willing to do this. And that was huge. I did not expect to hear back from that particular person.
Um, And then the other one was to say, thank you [00:16:00] to the group. Because then I think we sent out six invites and only heard back from two folks. And previously my, like, I would have been like cut and run this podcast. Isn’t a good idea. People aren’t even responding. We’re being ghosted. And my fear would have liked.
Made me just shut down. And then I remember the conversation about like, think about it, like planting seeds and you’re going to water it and you’re going to, like, I was like, okay, I can do this. This is not personal. This is not a sign that we shouldn’t do it. So I kind of talked myself through that and then heard back from that first person.
And I was like, see, okay. So thank you all for those conversations about persistence. It was. Very helpful for my brain space over the last week. Oh, I just have chills. That’s so great. That’s so great that we’re also connected that when we’re having struggles outside of this time, that we spend together, that we [00:17:00] hear our conversations with each other in our head and kind of take it’s like we have this whole massive team of cheerleaders that we can just carry with us at any point in time.
So I love that. So thank you for sharing that. Um, all right. Who else has a word, a win. So Judith, we’re doing the, uh, we’re checking in with our word to ground us in the, this moment and where we are, but then they’ve been connected to the winds or whatever. So now I’ve renamed it a word when or whatever.
So, and I go, go ahead, Christina. So, um, I’m super excited because, um, I guess my word is going to be faith. But, you know, faith that I could do this faith, that things are going to align and, you know, um, I’m recording my third episode next week. I’m going to do the May 1st launch date. Tracy, great idea from mother’s day since it’s called mama school.
And I just been looking at people that inspire me [00:18:00] and my, you know, homeschooling journey and stuff that are really kind of real. And aren’t given this fake IgG. Story kind of thing who will show me their dirty, messy kitchen after a day of school and stuff. And so I’ve been reaching out and I have four, five people.
I have two recorded, one being recorded next week and two more after that. And then I’m going to launch them all at the same time. And I’m just like really grateful. I’m grateful for your, you guys, your guys’s energy and your guys’s insights. And like, yeah, I’ve been around a lot of people who put off.
Image of perfection. I don’t know what it is. You know, we have no room for that here. No, I appreciate you guys. And I feel like, because I’m signing on every week, I feel like it gives me homework, you know? And I feel like I’m just moving forward. I appreciate you guys. So I’m very excited to finish recording.
Yeah, that’s it. Thank you. Okay. I’m glad you’re hearing [00:19:00] graduations on setting your launch date. That is a big win. I don’t have anything else ready, but I got the microphone. I got the microphone he’s telling me to get it’s a very pot it’s popular in the group. Okay. Who else would like to share?
We add a shares already. I will hunt out. Okay. Well wait, who said I will? Um, Diana was at you soon.
I’m sorry. You can go first. I can go after her. Okay. Yvonne I, everyone. Um, okay. So my word is foundation and it’s just so interesting how like, um, Lately I’ve been like reading, you know, [00:20:00] I get like different messages from different people. And then one of my friends tagged me on, on a post regarding tourists.
Cause I’m a tourist, so I’ll be celebrating my birthday soon. And it was talking about, you know, tourist is definitely need to relax more, you know, get more rest. And which, you know, I talked about last time and then setting the foundation on like, what does so crazy? Like that’s exactly like how I’ve been flowing lately and because I’ve been doing that.
Like more and more doors have been opening. And so yesterday I just felt like going with the flow and I definitely took way bigger nap. And then, um, I had an amazing, um, live meditation session with these doctoral students. Who run, um, uh, Spanish for mental health clinic in long Island. And it was just so beautiful to be able to give back to them because they’re doing such amazing work within the community and, um, got really good feedback as well.
And then later in the [00:21:00] afternoon, I attended my girl scout, um, like council meeting. And, you know, the talking about events or whatever. And I, and then I don’t know why I hadn’t thought about it before. And so at the end of the meeting, I said, Hey, um, you know, I, I am a Chopra certified meditation teacher, and I would love to do a webinar for the girls, or maybe have my troop like lead into like, you know, like for them teach the other girls, you know, breath work or a meditation or something.
And just the gal was like, yes, that would be amazing. And we also have, um, you know, this group of the older girls. You know, they did do this thing and they’re always having, you know, looking for other speakers. And then they said, Oh, and I have some friends in Europe that are also on board, you know, with my mission.
And w you know, we want to collaborate. And she said, Oh, awesome. There’s girl Scouts, global. I definitely need to connect you with them so that you can do something global, because I think this is so needed. And dah, dah, dah. Oh my gosh. This is so cool. And she’s like, I’m, we’re going to help you reach your goal.
Like, Oh, I got all teary. I’m like, [00:22:00] This is amazing. Like I get closer and closer to reach into that goal. One of the things that, you know, like my podcast is like five minutes, but like for me, editing is like a lot of work. Um, because it’s like so new to me. And so I was talking to, um, to Jessica, um, and decel and, and, uh, Jessica said that she was recommended to a gal in, um, in Argentina who charges like $15 an hour.
And I’m like, Wait, my podcast is like five minutes. I could do like the whole summer for $15. I’m like, sign me up. That means keep up and hopefully get to a point where I could do like a weekly, like release on, which is what I really would like, you know, but it’s like, you know, all these setbacks, right.
And I get stuck on the editing and then it’s just discouraging. And anyways, I haven’t really done much. I mean, I have all these ideas that I want to do and I do them live on clubhouse, but. Anyways. So I’m excited about that. So yeah, my word is foundation and then [00:23:00] my win is like girl Scouts is like all over it.
They’re totally being supportive and I’ll make this so crazy. Cool. You’ll probably be like of the girl scout meditate. Like you’ll probably end up integrating this into the entire girl scout, you know, universe, which would be just so fantastic for all the girl Scouts and. You know, obviously for you, but really it’s such a part of your goal.
I’d love to see that happen. Amazing. So, yeah. So we’re going to plan on doing something at the beginning of June, so that’ll be super cool. I’m really excited. Well, tell Jessica that when we miss her and that we love to see her smiling face back on here on Thursday. But I definitely will. Thank you. And I, um, had a thought, you know, how we had the little fiasco on one of the zooms and I was wondering like, how you like, get to see like who’s coming in.
Can you send them a chat, like a message and say, what group are you coming in from before you let them in? You know, in case there’s new people. [00:24:00] Yeah. I mean, the answer is, I don’t know if that’s possible. Um, what we, you know, we have the ability to cross-check on the backend, but that’s more of a post experience, you know, w versus, but, um, that’s always been something that has been a little bit of a tricky puzzle for me, because people are joining the groups new all the time.
So, but we do have a check. Uh, process on the backend, but, and we’ve never actually had an issue where someone was showing up that wasn’t a member of one of the three groups, except for when the, when the, we got hacked. But, um, that’s something good that Tori is, are becoming our resident zoom expert. So we’ll, we’ll see if you can chat with a person in a waiting room or not.
That’s a great, great idea. Um, Yeah. So Diane, Anna, you’re next. Hi, for some reason, I’m not able to put my video on I, that happened to me last week in this call yet when I [00:25:00] have other zoom calls, uh, with work. I’m fine. So I don’t know what the problem is, so I’m not trying to not let you go. Yeah, we can wonder.
Okay. I’m going to hit ask to start video. Let’s see what happens. Now it says, Oh yeah, but the top it’s still saying failed to start video camera, please select another camera. Video camera in settings. But there isn’t one I’ve gone there all last week and right now, and I don’t know what it is. Hmm. Well, that’s a bummer, but we can still see your lovely picture.
Yeah. I’ll look into that more. I thought it was just a. Something that happened last week. And then when I had my zoom meetings this week, it was fine. So let me just go and make sure you have the latest version of zoom updated. See if that, but it’s kind of strange that it’s just randomly happening. Right.
Um, okay. So anyways, uh, my word is reflective. [00:26:00] Um, word what’s that? I said, that’s a nice word. Well, yeah, I’m, I’m in a, kind of a. Weird space, I guess. Uh, right now I, um, I brought this up, uh, about a month ago or so I, I told you all that. I have a co-host it’s my podcast is on, uh, TV and films and that I do everything because she is a super busy mom that owns her own business.
And, um, how do I work? This thing?
Oh, I hear a little kid’s voice.
Okay. Anyways, so, um, I, um, Oh, so my co-host, I do most everything. And, um, I think I had mentioned to you, we were having some issues with us, um, connecting and as far as [00:27:00] like, um, Time to record and time to release. And, uh, but we had a conversation, um, a couple of weeks ago and I realized she’s just really in a different space than I am.
Um, w we’re still continuing together, but I, for her, I feel like it’s more of, um, Something that’s more grueling entire song where me I’m exhilarated. I’m happy. Of course I have more free time than her. I do have a full-time job and I have a family, but my children are grown. So I am just starting to reflect on the podcast and the content.
And wondering if I’m holding on to, um, Uh, certain aspects of it or certain shows that I, that I think I have to do. I, I, I’m just in a weird place right now. I’m trying to figure that out. So I’m, I’m being very [00:28:00] reflective and I’m also thinking about the future and thinking about what brings me joy and what brings me passion.
And, um, I’m just trying to figure out how to move forward and where to move forward. And I’m just trying to assess that, um, I wonder, I think people here had mentioned, well, what if you had guests on, um, what if you moved on with a different host and I’m not quite very yet, but I also thought something else that popped into my head because I was inspired by another podcast, was having a, um, Working, maybe on a summer project or a summer podcast where I totally changed the type of content that we’re doing, because here we talk about our favorite films and, and shows and everything.
But I’m wondering if I can be more creative in a different podcast where, um, it’s more of, um, [00:29:00] short. Uh, skits or short plays or short, um, um, anything that, that is more of like a story or, um, being played out. Over the podcast. So anyways, all these things are going through my head. And so I’m just being very reflective and I’m just voicing it out to all of you, just to have someone to voice it out to.
So I really appreciate all of you listening to me. And if you have any thoughts or input or direction, I would appreciate it. I have a fairly direct question for you, and that is. Have you spend some time reflecting on whether or not that you might be coming to the idea that the co-host relationship isn’t working with you and now you might be trying to do some work arounds, as opposed to maybe having that difficult conversation.
That it’s just not, you [00:30:00] know, there’s a re there was a reason in a season, but that you guys are in two totally different places because the energetic aspect of it is so incredibly important as a podcast host solo, and as an having a co-host balancing out that energy and roles and responsibilities that we’ve talked about before.
But I think I keep maybe hearing a little bit of Ms. Like you might want to be given permission to make a different decision. And if you are, I’m looking for that permission. Um, I think we could probably give you that. I w I’m not even sure what your exact question was. Do I want to, I really actually don’t want to, I want it to work with her and I, but I was feeling defeated a little bit, a couple of weeks ago.
So, uh, that whole weekend, I was like, I’m not. I didn’t really work on. Usually I’m doing something regarding the podcast. I’m doing social media or I’m [00:31:00] reading about something, or I’m learning about a new app that can help me, you know, whatever it might be. But I took a break, kind of a mental break myself that weekend.
And, and that’s why I’ve said I’ve been kind of reflective of what do I need to do? How do I need to do this? I feel I need a partner because I don’t know that I could do this on my own with, with all the work that I do with her being with me. I just feel like it would be even more work if I had guests or anything else, because now I’ve, you know, incorporated that.
So I, I don’t know. I’m just thinking I’m still thinking and reflecting on everything. Right. Um, Jen, did you like trying to find my mute button? Um, I guess Diana, one of my questions is two things. One you said before that you really want to make it work with her. And so my first question is why, like, what is it that she’s bringing?
[00:32:00] What’s the value she’s adding to the show that dynamic for you? Like what’s the why there with her, um, When we’re together, it she had does. Um, she’s funny. Uh, she actually brings more of the comedic side to the both of us. I’m the straight man she’s funnier. Um, and I liked that. Um, I actually adore her as a person.
Uh, we’ve been friends. I just love her energy, the energy she brings. So I think it’s her energy and her humor. Um, that she brings and her insightfulness to what we’re talking about. I feel like we’re on the same page when it comes to the content that the actual, where we’re really talking about the shows and movies we really mesh well.
So I think those three things. Got it. And then I guess the other thing that came up for me was that you [00:33:00] feel like you couldn’t do it on your own, and I want to point out you are doing it on your own, all ready, except for the 30 minutes or 45 minutes that you’re recording. Because also all of the things that you said she adds are.
Only while you’re recording, other than her being a great friend, like that’s not going to change regardless of the podcast and you still get that. But the reality is you are doing it on your own. Yeah, you’re right. Thank you. So you can, yeah. It’s the other side of that is, you know, like you absolutely can because you are yeah.
And, and if it’s a situation where she’s a dear friend, which, and we have a, we have a amicable, um, expert on, on navigating communication. So we’ll certainly let her weigh in. But you know, you have this [00:34:00] situation where you have, uh, a person who is a very good friend first and foremost. And secondly, who brings positive, you know, brings energy and humor and.
Uh, insights into the content of the show. So if where the heaviness factor is coming from is that you are having to do all of the legwork, um, because of her schedule, then maybe there’s a conversation that you could have. And again, I’m going to defer to the amicable relation relationship expert, but I think there could be a conversation where you have.
A weighted responsibility conversation. And even if she’s not able to handle some of those other details, maybe there’s something that can happen that you guys can hire a virtual assistant that you both contribute to. So that it’s a way to financially equally. And then that work is done by a third party so that you can focus on the content and have fun with the show.
Because she’s focusing on the content and having the fun with the show, and you’re not [00:35:00] getting to have any of the fun part because you’re having to do all the stuff that’s not fun. And maybe there’s just a way to, even if it’s an internship or something that can, that can bring to this relationship a little bit better balance so that it doesn’t affect the friendship.
And it doesn’t affect the quality of the show itself, but maybe. Doesn’t what I’m afraid, because this has popped up a couple of times over the last couple months or so that ultimately you could move into a phase of resentment and that phase of resentment is then ultimately going to come out in more negative ways that that are transposed, that you might not even realize.
And yeah. So that’s would be my concern is that it could ultimately impact the friendship, which is where it all started. And it might not have to do that if there was some communication around more equally distributed, um, balance. I, Oh my gosh. Everything you said was just great and [00:36:00] I’m absorbing all of it.
It isn’t that I mind so much doing all the work. I, I, I kind of accepted that. It’s more of. Um, on her and not being able to show up to all the podcast recordings that we have scheduled because she would like to take the summer off. And she, she would rather, it, her idea of a schedule is different than my idea of a schedule.
That’s where we’re kind of having a, an issue. Um, so I’ll weigh in because this is nothing different than a marriage we’re in the honeymoon phase right now. But you’re also noticing cracks in the relationship. Those cracks are going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and everything Tracy and Jen said, I completely agree with it’s reality.
Um, you will lose the friendship eventually because if you become anywhere successful at [00:37:00] all, territorial, you’re going to get territorial. And that’s going to hurt the friendship. You can still be friends. There are other funny people out there. There are other people that can bring to the table, what she brings to the table.
But if you don’t have an equal relationship whereby you define exactly what you’re both going to be doing, and you both define the goals the same way, it’s not going to work. It just isn’t. And it’s hard. Tracy has told us before about what it was like to have a co-host it’s hard hack. Just have me having an assistant in the office.
I want to kill myself if it’s not the right assistant. So be very careful who you engage with in a working relationship, um, because you could be jeopardizing the relationship beyond the work work relationship. And I was also in a situation where. And I, I had to own my [00:38:00] part in the communication around this, on the onset.
And I’ll never make this mistake again, but I was also in a situation where somebody wanted to be a business partner in my business and they, um, just felt entitled to it. Like they didn’t, they weren’t do you know when you’re starting up a business, just like when you’re starting with a podcast. There’s a lot of work that, that happens outside of just the fun stuff of the showing up in the recording.
And in this business that I was in this person, um, did bring a skill set that I didn’t have to the business. But I’ve financed everything. I did all of the net, all the networking, the business development systems, the infrastructure, like I was doing all of the work and this person had this one skill set that I didn’t share that was very integral to the building of the business.
But because they had that. They just assumed that they should own 50% of my business. And they re they [00:39:00] felt entitled to be a 50, 50 business partner with me and my business. And it was a very, very difficult conversation to have to say, I have done everything. And now that the business is something that’s not, um, costing money and it isn’t stressful.
Is it now you want to have 50% of it. Like that’s just not even fate. And, um, and that was, uh, quite a company candid conversation to navigate of which, like I said, I’m always wanting to look at what my part in it is. And my part in it was is that I. Either didn’t have the courage, or I had fear that if I had that conversation, that I would lose this person with this one skillset.
And what ultimately ended up happening was is that once we had the conversation, they continue to work within the parameters of the business. And they contribute in that one area and they get compensated for that one area, but there is no ownership of the business, but it was this entitlement aspect that was [00:40:00] so confusing to me because I was like, how can they not save the 19 9%?
What I do versus the one person? And think that that equals 50% it’s so people’s perspectives are often not what we think they are and what we, how we perceive it and how they perceive it are really different. And you don’t nail this stuff in the beginning and define your roles and what the value to your roles and how you’re going to divide up whatever the winnings are.
Um, it it’s going to be worse. So you have to have the hard conversation about your roles in the business and your, your, your vision for where the business is going to go. And starting a podcast is so totally. Like something that it feels like a solution, because then you could own that one and you could be doing that one and that would be all yours, but you wouldn’t have to have that difficult conversation, but then you’re going to be doing everything for two podcasts.
Then you’re going to be super [00:41:00] exhausted. But the one thing I will say, take all the emotion out of it and talk all the relationship and everything, take everything out of that. And let’s just look at what makes a podcast successful. Let’s just drill it down to that is consistency of release and. And consistency of con of content delivery.
And she, because of her schedule and how she perceives scheduling to be different is not willing to be consistent, which is jeopardizes the potential success of the show. So if you don’t want to have the, if you don’t want to have her go away a hundred percent, but you are willing to reframe the conversation.
I think we go back to that original, um, suggestion that we talked about is I absolutely think you need to bring in guest hosts because bringing in guests heads will solve too. Two issues. It’ll give you a chance to experience other interacting with others, people on your end, without you feeling like you’re doing things solo.
It’ll also give her a direct signal [00:42:00] that says this podcast is very important to me and I welcome you when you’re available, but when you’re not available, I am going to make the show as successful as it can be. And when you have a guest host, it can be a guest host with expertise and. The, it doesn’t have to be a co-host that’s going to sit in your co host chair permanently, but it’ll just give you this opportunity to explore past the existing co-hosts that you have and maintain the consistency of your release schedule, which is fundamentally the most important thing to the success of your podcast.
But we’re not trying to beat you up. No, I actually, I, I like, I thank you, everybody. For what you’ve said is so valuable. And I think right now, what you, how you defined it as being the utmost important thing is a consistency, which I have said, in fact, one time she, uh, And I don’t want to make herself awful.
She’s the one that you’re not just facing. [00:43:00] Sometimes you have to hear yourself say things out loud to make them a reality. Yes. So she had one time, uh, said, Oh, I, I, I’m not going to be able to do it this week. And I’m like, well, we have to it’s we’re released. Cause we w because our show unfortunately is on.
So we are, we have to do it in real time. It’s not, um, At least one of the shows we can batch some other shows, but anyways, and so we had to do it, you know, that week. Cause we put it out biweekly and uh, she wasn’t gonna, she says I can’t do it. And I’m like, Oh, we need to, we need to release it Tuesday. And um, I felt like I put her in a corner and then I felt really guilty for doing that.
She ended up making time on a D she was going to leave out of town that night. She didn’t, she stayed, uh, I don’t know if it was because of me or her, whatever else, but she ended up staying and we recorded, um, on a Friday night, um, [00:44:00] before she left. And so, but I kind of told her, I said, really, it needs to be consistent.
But, uh, with saying that, is there, I mean, do any of you do all of you take any type of breaks at all? Is that not? I know we should be consistent, but is it okay to take breaks also? Well, hang in there a second, because you pretty much define somebody. Who’s not an equal partner. You just defined it and you just defined somebody.
Who’s not prioritizing it. Like you’re prioritizing it. And this is like every married couple that calls. If they’re not both on the same page, if they’re not seeing the same thing, there’s no future. And, and, and people try and avoid the inevitable breakups. Cause it’s just hard, but, um, you’ve just defined somebody who’s not with you.
Right. And so you have to decide, [00:45:00] is this the relationship you like? I tag onto what ju Judas said. And again, I hope you realize no one’s beating up on you or your co-host, but. Our time and life is too precious to chase anyone to want to be part of our vision, our creativity and our passion. And I say that as much for myself, as I’m saying to you, because we’re all working really hard to pursue.
This podcasting is hard. And, um, to have someone on board that you have to chase to convince why it’s important is kind of your answer. Instead of calling someone up and going, I can’t wait to do this with you. What can I do this week to make this a pleasurable experience or successful or et cetera. And I think that’s just what we’re trying to support you in is it’s okay to want more and to expect more from someone [00:46:00] who you’re calling your cohost, that’s all.
And on a timeline that works for you. That’s the thing like if you want to, um, explore strategy. In fact, I was going to paste this in the chat that. Next Wednesday is the office hour session where you can book a 15 minute consultation and we could work through the strategy of how to implement this. We could also obviously bring it into the group.
Uh, Oh, good. You already booked. Okay. So, um, but if any, there are still some spaces open if you guys haven’t booked or any, but, um, but yeah, I mean, I think that one of the most important lessons I learned in management when I was working with the radio stations and managing a lot of employees, is that.
When you need to make a change, you need to make a change when it works for you. And so these are suggestions that, um, you know, and worked for you and work in the business and the timeline that works for the [00:47:00] business. And so sometimes you don’t have a choice over that matter, but in this case you do okay.
And I think that you could give yourself the gift of not making a black or white decision right now, but taking all of this feedback that you’ve gotten and maybe looking at options and exploring what those options look like for you, not what they look like for her. Cause we know kind of where she is in it.
But what options work for you? Like what guest hosting as a situation, um, looking at the content of your podcast and maybe this new concept that you have. Um, for the second show could integrate into your primary show. And, um, and maybe you could do some, um, integrate some consistency with you creating these narratives that are tied in somehow.
So there are a lot of ways that you can move forward, but I think you’re going to feel more confident and more comfortable and have more courage, a little bit more alliteration there. Um, When you have a plan and w [00:48:00] and then whether you execute on that plan, or you don’t, we still love you unconditionally, but you will get more, you will feel more confidence and have more courage about executing it.
If you feel like it’s a solid plan, that feels good for you. And I would. When you have that conversation with her, which is tough. It’s like the divorce conversation being the first one to bring it up is very difficult. Although it may be obvious to both people, they don’t have a really good functioning relationship or maybe the other person is just tone deaf to what a relationship is.
It doesn’t make them a bad person. But when you go to have that conversation, which does take courage and it is a little frightening, you can have it in a very positive way and use this as a impetus for you to take on bigger risks and bigger challenges. And that would be simply, you know, bring it up and ask her what she would [00:49:00] like her level of commitment to be.
Maybe she needs you to say this to her so she can say sounded like a great idea at the start. Not so much. Now she may need that from you. You could maybe be helpful to her bringing it up, or she might say, I didn’t realize this was gonna be. Such a risk of me losing my part in the show. I’ll do better. I mean, I don’t know.
You really don’t know. Yeah. Thank you everybody. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And I am going to take this on and be reflective on it. Perfect. Okay. What a great, um, community call we’re having today. And we haven’t heard from you, Charlotte. How are you doing today? I am. I don’t have a word because I couldn’t figure out how to describe it.
Um, I’m a mixture of, um, really excited in, um, a little bit terrified and a little bit like what [00:50:00] the heck is this going on in my life right now? So I guess, you know, maybe really, really outside of my comfort zone, but very happy to be outside. It’s a whirlwind. Maybe it’s not really directly related to the podcasting.
But there’s a connection for sure. Um, so, um, I was basically invited to speak, um, at the, uh, at my Alma mater. So it’s, it’s not the official commencement ceremony ceremony for the whole college, but it’s for the college of health sciences, um, for, um, all of the people who. Complete their degree, um, or usually attended a pinning ceremony.
So my first degree was with medical laboratory technology and we had our pinning ceremony. There’s a small group of like 20 or 25, and I’ve always wanted to go back and, and be able to speak to those graduates and inspire them because I had no idea that. That little starter, like it was an associates degree with a certification.
At that time, I was just, I was [00:51:00] fresh out of divorce and I just needed to have like a piece of paper that would give me an exact job that I could go anywhere and get hired because I had to make money and take care of my kids and move on. And that was really my goal. Um, and I had no idea that it would 18 years later, I’d be doing all the things.
So I just have, for years, I’ve always thought I would love to go back and like, share with them, like what I wish. Like if I knew the value of that, that what that did for me, that that’s first degree and what that did and all the things that I would see. So they invited me to speak last year and it was all approved to set up and I was all excited and then COVID happened and everything was canceled.
So I got an email a few days ago, um, kind of frantic, I guess they probably just decided to have in-person everything, but they frantically sent an email asking if I was available to speak next month. So I thought, well, I don’t know, let me see the time. It’s like the day before my daughter graduates from college.
So I’m like, what time of day? Some literally I’m in South Carolina, I’ve got to go [00:52:00] down to the Gulf coast of Mississippi and be there for that, and then come back and be back in time the next day for my daughter’s graduation. So the time it was all fine, I thought, sure I can make it happen. And then I found out it’s not the 20 to 25 people that I thought, because it’s at the Coliseum.
I kept thinking, why am I going to the Coliseum for 20 to 25 people? But there are. About 300 graduates that will be there. And when you consider their, um, you know, family they’re allowed to, so we’re talking and she said there is a potential for more because the people, since it was canceled last year, um, it is they’re having those people that graduated last year, giving them the opportunity to participate in the ceremony.
So it could be more, but when you consider their people attending, we’re talking six to 900 people. Um, that I’ll be speaking to, and it’s not just a medical laboratory science, so it’s all of the health sciences. So it’s the nurses, the respiratory therapists, the radiology therapists, the, uh, surgical techs.
And they’re like, [00:53:00] and now they’ll kind of like, Oh, we want to know what Dr. Huntley’s got to say, you’re the epidemiologist. And we’re all going on, boots on the ground for the pandemic. So what do you guys say? I’m like, yeah. Oh crap. You know, the same story. It’s such a great story. And think about how many people download your podcast.
Now we’re doing the reverse exercise here. People would be like, I don’t, I only have X amount of people that download my podcasts. And then we always say what we always say. Well, think about when is the opportunity that you ever get to stand in front of. 600 people. Not very often stand on that stage, looking at the podcast.
I thought that exact thing. And the thing that gives me comfort is the fact that I have been in front of the microphone for so long, even though it was just in my office podcasting, but I’m used to, you know, like articulating my thoughts and, and speaking. So that is definitely helping, but. Holy crap.
[00:54:00] Well, one thing I know for sure. And I think I speak on behalf of everybody on this call. We know you got this.
Hi, I’m not even in that field. And I would be inspired by the message that you have to share. So, because you’re so amazing, and that is what they’re so lucky to have you. Thank you. But my husband, usually, if I have to. I speak to any kind of group my husband goes with me because I’m the like super, you know, introverted, nerdy one, that’s all freaking out and he’s always laughing and laid back and he prepares for nothing.
And so he’s my balance and he won’t be available to go with me. And then I thought, well, my daughter may be like a road trip because it’s after final exams. And she’s so spastic about getting ready for graduation. The idea of trying to plan to go with me, just freaked her out even more. So I’ll be doing this one alone.
Well, you’ll have us with you. I was just gonna say we’re all there. I don’t know, but I don’t know what this alone [00:55:00] nonsense is. Thank you. I will join the call cause it’s on a Friday morning. So I’ll make sure I joined the call that Thursday before and I’ll be down there so you guys can talk me off the hook.
Okay. What day is that? I’m putting it in the chat to Mark their calendars. Not to skip that week. Yeah. So that’s um, it’s May 14th. Um, that I’ll be speaking. So. May 14th show up for,
there you go. It’s a date.
Oh, my goodness. Well, is there anyone else I wanted to, uh, Claire on, sorry. I wanted to share your word. And we just got into these deep conversations. So, um, Clara is word is movement because, and she’s also walking her dogs. So foot movement is great. Forward movement is great. I think [00:56:00] that we had a lot of forward movement in all kinds of areas on this call today, we have just a couple of minutes left.
Um, Judith. We actually, haven’t heard from you outside of your consultant space. Do you want to share an update with us? No, you’re good. Well, your hair looks fantastic. That pastry budget going towards your outs is really working out for you. I’ll just state for the group that that’s, that’s your win.
Um, okay. Well, Um, everybody thank you as always for just being such a vibrant and wonderful and supportive, amazing part of this community. And we have one more message. So let me make sure, Oh, Thursday, May 13th. Okay. Thursday, May 13th show up for Charlotte. Um, And they, and again, just thank you so much.
We’ve just built such a beautiful community here, and it’s really amazing to watch each other support each other. So thank you for that. And so I’m going to end with my word. My word I was going to start out with [00:57:00] was strategic was strategy, but I’m going to end, um, with enthusiasm because I just have so much enthusiasm, um, and contagious energy from this call.
So thank you. And we will see you next week. Okay. Bye.